Anyone but me thinking there is no way this tire is going to make it even close to the 65K that Falken claims for this tire? I don't want to go another winter with this tire and I have less than 10K miles on mine. I am coming up on 1 year, does anyone know if the Mazda (not just Falken) includes the warranty on wearable items (tires) before 12 months? I don't want to even check how expensive this size tire will be after spending $60K less than a year ago.
Falken Ziex CT60
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According to the TireRack listing, the CT60A has no treadwear warranty, while the CT60 has the aforementioned 65K warranty. I'm curious how @Blackpearl2 was able to warranty them.
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@Jeff_NoVA just how I’ve said very simple. Provide tire rotation documentation, provide pictures, provide written documentation from dealership of all tire rotations/ tire psi readings/ provide documentation on. Alignment: I’ve had all tire rotation/ oil changes every 3k miles. Documentation is King.
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Thanks, yeah I understand documenting everything. My question was more that it appears to me that the CT60A doesn't have a treadwear warranty. The CT60 (no A) has 65K, but also has a UTQG of 600, double the CT60A. So I was wondering how you were able to get them to honor a treadwear warranty.
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If I search Tirerack for the Falken CT60 is see they are in stock for $269 each
Falken Azenis FK460 A/S Ultra High Performance All Season tire
$310 each Treadwear 500
Tirerack test report-
Good for warmer weather use. Less road noise.
In this size a possible alternative tire could be-
Pirelli Scorpion Weatheractive Crossover SUV Touring All Season tire $378 each treadwear 700
Severe Snow Service rated
Tirerack test review-
Tirerack customer tire ratings for SUV Touring All Season tires in 275/45-21
Falken Azenis FK460 A/S Ultra High Performance All Season tire
$310 each Treadwear 500
Tirerack test report-
Good for warmer weather use. Less road noise.
In this size a possible alternative tire could be-
Pirelli Scorpion Weatheractive Crossover SUV Touring All Season tire $378 each treadwear 700
Severe Snow Service rated
Tirerack test review-
Tirerack customer tire ratings for SUV Touring All Season tires in 275/45-21
My understanding is that many OEM tires will have a shorter life than the aftermarket versions they are based on. I assume this is so the OEM has a lower cost. The self defeating issue for the brand, like Falken, is then we all assume the tire sucks and buy another brand.
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I'm aware of this - it's like the half-full ink cartridges you get with a new printer. Not as good as the replacements you'll soon have to buy. In any case, OEM tires are made to hit a certain price and fuel efficiency target. As for Falken, I was unlikely to buy another set of their tires regardless.
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I find the tires relatively quiet, it must be the foam they use for these tires.
I have nothing against the tires, per se, but i'll probably replace with one with a softer sidewall.maybe a continental?
I have nothing against the tires, per se, but i'll probably replace with one with a softer sidewall.maybe a continental?
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there is no tire warranty on number of miles (longevity) OE tires (tires that your vehicle was equipped with) in USA market. Verified if by calling Falken, and my local Mazda dealer.
If you were to purchase replacement tires — that is where you normally get warranty on wear / longevity / number of miles.
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there is 0 thread wear warranty on OE tires that the Cx-90 came with in US market. Verified it with Falken customer service and my Mazda Dealer.
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Thanks, that’s what I thought. I’m trying to figure out how the other poster was able to get some sort of warranty coverage. Is he not in the US?
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I don’t know where he is from, I can speak if my own experience only. We have Canadian members on this forum too. Their equipment trims don’t match US trims which made me aware of regional differences in general.
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Wondering how you felt these handled as winter tires? We lease the CX-90 PHEV and just priced out winter tires : $2K!!! Not many options in terms of pricing for this baby! We live in Vermont but mostly drive on city streets and highway, not many back roads . Do you think the Falkens can manage ok in winter as All- seasons?
Not sure if you have looked at the Michelin CC2 (just became available) and the Verdestin Pro's, those two have really good winter ratings and I have the CC2 on another car. I have the stock Falkens and in my opinion they are not great at all for winter. I had less than 5k last year when I had a few ski trips to Mount Snow and I could feel the loss of grip.
The Falkens are quite poor in winter and overall bad in wet conditions.
The Verdestins PRO both all season and winter are fantastic tires, highly recommended. I used to drive dedicated summer and winter tires for decades but nowadays the Verdestin quad pros or the Michelin Crossclimates have fulfilled both roles extremely well. For better winter I think the Crossclimates outperform the all-season Vredsteins but these were in different cars so not a real back to back comparison.
The Verdestins PRO both all season and winter are fantastic tires, highly recommended. I used to drive dedicated summer and winter tires for decades but nowadays the Verdestin quad pros or the Michelin Crossclimates have fulfilled both roles extremely well. For better winter I think the Crossclimates outperform the all-season Vredsteins but these were in different cars so not a real back to back comparison.
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I am going to try the Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActive. I KNOW everyone loves the Michelin CCs but it seems the WeatherActives test a little better in the dry and I like to Zoom Zoom even in a 3 row SUV. My biggest concern is the mileage. Pirellis have a fairly bad reputation for being crazy optimistic with the treadwear estimate. Putting them on this Friday and will update everyone regularly. I live in Denver and will be going to Breckenridge the day after installation so I will be putting ALOT of snow miles on them over the next 6 months. It's a bit of a dice roll compared to the Michelins but we will see...
Only 22 thousand miles and the Falkens are nearly shot. I usually go aftermarket for tires but the dealer price for the Bridgestone Alenzas with Roadhazard is 1625.00 out the door AND they have an online only sale beginning in December where you buy 3 tires and get 1 free. So I can save a couple hundred off the $1625.00, so I may have to go with them.
I really hate this awkward 21 inch tire size, no one has them in stock (not even the dealer) so you always have to order. I am also shocked that they put a tire with such a low treadware rating on a premium aspiring vehicle.
I really hate this awkward 21 inch tire size, no one has them in stock (not even the dealer) so you always have to order. I am also shocked that they put a tire with such a low treadware rating on a premium aspiring vehicle.
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I just brought mine into the dealership with a flat ( went to them bc we lease) and they can’t replace my flat bc upon inspection my 3 other tires are already toast at 6500miles and the new one won’t match!!!!!! 6500 miles— insane. Now I have to work with dealership or tires company to hopefully help with the cost of 4 new ones covered . I’m going for all seasons bc there’s no way we will pay for a dry and winter set on a leased car . Appreciate everyone’s ideas already noted about getting them covered .
First month impression? I’ve found the TireRack ratings and reviews to be pretty good and haven’t been disappointed by their recommendations. The Pirelli Weatheractive tests high and at the top of their segment. My Falkens are near the wear bars at 15,000 miles 😡 and I’m getting a set of the Pirellis in the next week or 2.
I wound up getting the Bridgestone Alenza Ultra AS tires from Firestone because they were located across the street from my job and I like the fact that when I need tire rotations they are nearby and convenient. The Alenza’s are so much better than the Ziex tires, it is hard to believe how much quieter and comfortable they are. They also have a fairly high rating on Tire Rack.
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22k and our Falkens are nearly done too…but a lot of those miles were on our Vredestein winter tires which seem to be holding up much better.
I’ve had Falkens before and they were fine, so I’m chalking this up to lowest bidder OEM supplier BS. The Subaru specific Yokohama Geolanders that came on our Forester were also junk.
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